The nonsense being spewed forth in various media ever since Democratic Party leader Mmusi Maimane made his perfectly logical comment about the continued existence of white privilege in South Africa is stunning in its sheer blinkered arrogance. Most comments come from within the smug — “we and our families never voted for the [pro-apartheid National Party] Nats” — ranks of the “traditional Democratic Party”, but also from the more extreme ethnic nationalists clinging to the coattails of white liberals.
To deny that those individuals and families classified “white” under apartheid were privileged is so obviously ridiculous that it should require no response. Merely look to the plethora of discriminatory apartheid laws, let alone a history over more than 300 years.
And to imagine that centuries of discrimination against “natives” in favour of “Europeans” that morphed, in its final phase, into the rigid social engineering of apartheid has left no legacy is severely delusional. The decades of apartheid set out deliberately to cripple, academically, intellectually and financially the bulk of the “non-white” population.
The privileged position of those classified “white” — especially following the dominance of Afrikaner Nationalism in 1948 — gave every single individual, so classified, a massive advantage over their fellow citizens in the various “non-white” categories. This applied as much to those called Afrikaners as to the so-called “English” .
I was born into this system, the son of a railway worker, an English speaker in an almost exclusively Afrikaans neighbourhood. But while the legacy of the Anglo-Boer war continued to be fought out among ourselves as children, we shared common privileges: subsidised, 3-bedroom housing, a “free pass” on the rail network for annual holidays and schools that were generally well equipped and staffed.
We paid almost no school fees and, at primary level — apparently just in case our parents were remiss — were given free milk in the mornings to ensure healthy growth. Books and writing materials were also free and, for the few families who, despite all the advantages, still had difficulty coping, there were safety nets in school and church groups to supply any shortfalls.
At the same time every house, however humble, had its maid, usually a woman who lived in the “khaya” a room in the backyard without water and, often without electricity, who cooked, cleaned and cared for the employing family. Her own family, even if she had young children, were “looked after elsewhere”.
Among those “looked after” children would almost certainly have been the parents of the children who finally rose up in 1976. They argued that their parents had for too long acquiesced in their subjugation.
What it boiled down to was that, from birth to death, the child classified “white” would be privileged, granted extraordinary advantages to progress, academically, intellectually and financially. Many did. Most enjoyed a lifestyle they and their families would never have achieved in a generally non-racial society.
What these “white” families accumulated was physical, academic and intellectual wealth. It was then, with obvious exceptions, passed down through the generations. And there always existed, certainly under apartheid, a “bottom level” beyond which no white family could fall. So to claim now that “my son/daughter was born after 1994 and was therefore not privileged” is clearly nonsense. White privilege is a reality that continues as a legacy of apartheid and the discriminatory centuries that preceded it.
That I chose, at the age of 18, not to take full advantage of such privilege and to challenge the system instead, does not make my background any less privileged. The lifestyle I led, even the police and prison cells that I briefly inhabited at different times, reflected that privilege: two felt mats on the floor for whites, a single coir map for “others”.
My background — not so much the schooling I received — also prepared me for a career that I could pursue even in exile. As in all such cases, it is the advantages of the parents that accrue to the children and to the children of those children. Nothing much changes unless there is a major restructuring and reorganisation of society.
It never happened here: the “rainbow transition” merely perpetuated the residential and economic realities of the past. The geography — the spatial reality — of apartheid persists as the most glaring physical example.
Just because some, perhaps naive or even hypocritical, politicians and commentators declared that post 1994 meant that an “even playing field” had been created didn’t make it so. Far from it. But this myth suited the privileged as, for example, they moved their children to ever more expensive private schools and perhaps plotted packing for Perth.
Better perhaps, that they should deal with reality and use the advantages they have both had and inherited, to join others in an attempt to construct a genuinely democratic and anti-racist society.
Thabang Motsohi
May 13, 2018
Terry, your deeply honest and reflective piece and narrative is one that many whites need to honestly confront and embrace. That past has shaped their attitudes and and sense of disconnection that can only bring about pain and disbelief as the call for radical transformation speeds up and becomes reality.
The hard conversations were avoided in 1994 as the euphoria of political power number the sensitivies and minds. Exactly as Fannon has predicted and analysed. The new elite always seem to be far more concerned with occupying the positions of power rather than lead real and meaningful transformation.
I have written extensively on this. But I was ignored.
Terry Bell
May 13, 2018
Thanks Thabang — and keep writing.
Roger Pacey
May 13, 2018
Maintenance of privilege is not necessarily a racial matter. I suggest that once you attain a certain level of wealth and/or income, the chances of you or your children becoming downwardly mobile are quite remote. I think it’s natural for parents to want the best for their children but in doing so, they (or should I say ‘we’?) maintain privilege.
This is not a purely South African characteristic; I have seen it postulated as the cause of continued inequality in developed countries.
The example that springs to mind is the mushrooming of private schools as the result of lamentably bad public schools. It suggests to me that the best way to reduce inequality is to improve the lot of those in the lower LSMs rather than bring down those in the upper LSMs.
Further, I believe that interventions by the privileged classes are not as easy to achieve as politicians think.
Terry Bell
May 14, 2018
I agree with your main points, Roger. Racism is merely one of the means used by elites to divide and rule, social mobility at the upper levels becomes rather static and parents invariably “want what is best” and so maintain privilege. This is a global phenomenon.
However, within a stratified, class, society, that operates on a system that demands that the upper economic levels compete with one another to maximise profit, it is, I contend, impossible to “improve the lot of the lower”. This does not mean reducing to penury those in the upper. It means sharing and co-operation rather than exploiting and competing. With the level of automation, mechnisation and AI that already exists, we could liberate humanity rather than cause even greater suffering.
Roger Pacey
May 14, 2018
In agreeing with the notion of new technology liberating humanity (and improving the lot of the poor?), I tear my hair out at what appears to be policy weakness.
I recently read an interview with French President, Emmanuel Macron, about France’s AI policy. Politicians don’t normally impress me, but Mr Macron did on this issue. Most aspects apply equally well to South Africa and, with this country’s disease burden among the poorer people, I have to ask why there appears to be no clear policy on the subject
The barriers to some of these technologies are minimal. Even an ageing dullard like me can create a neural network and, with the help of an entry level kit designed for ages 10+, customise a microprocessor, despite never having studied electronics.
What I foresee is that, in the absence of well thought out policy, those with better resources will take the initiative in these new technologies and inequality will be entrenched further
Terry Bell
May 21, 2018
Agreed. Only policy itself is not enough. Implementation is where the problem invariably lies, even with the best of expressed policies. The real question, however, is whether policies to bring about the humane and egalitarian potential of technology can be achieved under the present economic and political system.
Patrick
May 13, 2018
Mr Wood, do you not think that this “white” privilege is a world-wide phenomenon that existed before and after apartheid? How do you think the “playing field” can be levelled?
Terry Bell
May 14, 2018
Actually, the name is Bell and yes, from the time of European colonial expansion, “white” racism against people of different complexions became widespread. But do not forget, that the in the first British colony, Ireland, there was racism against the Irish. However, the Irish could learn English, lose their accents and blend in. Not so Africans, Indians and Chinese. The derogatory term, Wog, for example, was abridged from the patronisingly racist term, Westernised Oriental Gentleman.
Patrick
May 14, 2018
Apologies Mr Bell. Thank you for your answer. Given the colonial history, how do you think the playing field can be levelled? In the SA context, things like BEE seem to have only made things worse, because they underline the so-called racial differences. I am of the view that you, by your use of the apartheid definition “white” are also perpetuating the problem.
Hendrik Mentz
May 13, 2018
The good guys and the bad guys, just like in the movies
Terry Bell
May 13, 2018
To judge from most other responses the fact that you draw such a simplistic analysis from what I wrote seems to be more your problem than mine.
Susan
May 13, 2018
I am amazed! I can’t understand that 24 year gone past, with the majority controlling the country ‘s purse sincpeople still keep on referring to white privilege. A quarter of a century later and they still clinging to and blame the whites for societal issues that had not improved.One must Susan ask: Why not? The answer does not lie with the minority of Whites who have relinquished all the power over to the Black majority 24 years ago. It is a myth to believe all whites are rich and privileged and. all blacks are poor and disadvantaged. It is ridiculous actually. Hard work will solve many problems but that is something some people do not want to hear. Everything must be gov n on a platter!! Please move on and roll up your sleeves. Listen and learn and start thinking for yourself iso let others determine your future.
Terry Bell
May 13, 2018
I must admit, Susan, that I am amazed at how you misread what I wrote. But you do seem somewhat confused about what is meant by both power and privilege. You appear to think that hard work in and of itself — and divorced from any context — is an answer. In fact, in this context, it is usually an indication of racism.
Pierré du Plessis
May 14, 2018
All countries are managed by a social engineering system. Our social engineering in South Africa was created over many decades by the previous government. The sad part is that the new ANC government has inherited this social engineering. Instead of attempting to change it they leave it the same as it was because changing it is far too challenging and politically inconvenient.
Terry Bell
May 14, 2018
Why the ANC in government has acted (and not acted) as it has, opens up an interesting topic for debate. And, of course, elites in power, in the guise of parliamentary democracies or whatever, do attempt to socially engineer their populations in order to better control/exploit/manage them. The questions here are: is this inevitable? Is there an alternative? If an alternative is possible, how can it be achieved?
Thejane
May 13, 2018
Terry. You are such a selflesly honest person with a real heart and empathy. You are a decent beautiful human being. I hope more of u emerge so that we can forge a true oneness and heal the ills of our past. Hope all of the best to you and all in our beautiful country.
Terry Bell
May 13, 2018
Thanks Thejane although I am unaccustomed to such praise. But you are right, we should all do our best to heal the ills of the past and build a better future.
Kwezi Kobus
May 13, 2018
A well-stated true account of the history of racist-inspired white privilege in SA. It would be helpful if all those who deny benefitting from it could face the truth and acknowledge the pain caused to the majority population of our beautiful country while sincerely working towards true reconciliation to avert further unnecessary suffering.
Terry Bell
May 13, 2018
Thanks Kwezi. Much appreiated.
Andre
May 14, 2018
Terry ,your last paragraph, wtf.How must we do this.Everything gets burned to the ground.These things are in the mindset of the population,work ethic etc.This all needs to change.We need a “Trump” in SA to kick butt.Governent policy is wishy washy,and corruption rife.We headed the way of most African countries.And also,is it only whites that can be classified as racist?
Terry Bell
May 14, 2018
I fear, Andre, that your response amounts to the classic bleat of those who bewail the passing of an apartheid regime that gave them extraordinary privilege. The implication is that the corrupt and brutal era of destructive social engineering from 1948, built on a colonial foundation of racism was, if not the best, certainly better than now. Such a view is understandable only from the previously highly privileged who are now having to deal — in a world of global economic crisis — with the beginnings of democracy. And, btw, I have never defined racism as pertaining specifically to any one group. The German Nazis, for example, were racist toward Jews, the Roma (“Gypsies”) and people of African (specifically African-Amrican) ancestry.
AV
May 14, 2018
Terry wrt your article: now we all know we are white priviliged and bad, what do you suggest we do or i do to-discard my education and assets and do a Vlok and wash black feet for the rest of my life. That will take the country forward, won’t it? Further to that, reading the praises and comments of others below amaze me, it seems if you white one should be apologetic and humble for ever or you will carry the red cross of oppression, privilidge and racism. Whites cannot stop existing because of the past or forever bend the knee. There is a duty on each individual to take the country forward, especially current leaders, and that goes for white and black. Still do not understand what is really required from whites as broad remarks does not contain solutions but is evident of a bit of self pitty and a stick to get to whites. Your comments would be interesting, though i am sure you will fine me with the raicism stamp
Terry Bell
May 14, 2018
Yes, AV, by your comments you reflect your racism: you still think in black and white terms and see your “white” position as superior. The real giveaway here is your reference to Vlok and “washing black feet for the rest of [your] life”. Of course, all should try, as equal citizens, to improve the lot of all. I do not apologise for the privilege I had under apartheid; I accept that it was a reality, just as I am fully aware of the damage done to the majority of my fellow citizens by the system that privileged me. So the slogan: Never Again is appropriate and we should, ideally, understand the past and realistically build a better future.
Susan Hanekom
May 14, 2018
As a privileged white, the issue for me is not to acknowledge the facts but what to do about them. I think many privileged whites are struggling to find this answer.
Terry Bell
May 14, 2018
Agreed. But, in order to ensure that the same mistakes are not repeated, it is essential to not only acknowledge the past, but to try to understand it. Only then can we have a clearer idea of where we are now — and why — and how we should act in the future.
Andre
May 14, 2018
You living in the past,wake up,smell the future.
Terry Bell
May 21, 2018
I beg to differ Andre. I live very much in the present and am very aware of the past and its legacies. As such I smell much that is potentially rotten and poisonous in the future unless we do something now to improve pending outcomes.
Terrance
May 14, 2018
Whites in South Africa are just a conveniant Scapegoat Terry. Why is it that no matter WHERE Blacks find themsleves, they are financially outmanouvered and outcompeted by other cultures
Terry Bell
May 14, 2018
Your comment reeks of racism, Terrance. I suggest you look to history where you will find that your racist analysis simply does not apply. And go beyond Europe after that area emerged from the rightly named Dark Ages.
Terrance
May 14, 2018
Terry. So what? What the heng does your sense of smell have to do with the validity of my observation? You’re an intelligent man! Don’t be another one of those soy-boys who thinks that calling everything you don’t like racist will work with me. It’s not 2008.
Mnce
May 14, 2018
Those who hinder peaceful revolution make violent revolution imminent. One day the poor will be left with nothing to eat but the rich.
Let the denialists continue on their arrogance path, but one day, when those who have nothing to lose rise up to crush the a social order that reduce them into sub-human status in the land of plenty. When that happens no one is guaranteed.
Terry Bell
May 14, 2018
You are right Mnce. Which is why it is so important that we have not only a clear understanding of what has happened in the past to have brought us — globally — to this state, but also what is needed to ensure a better, peaceful, prosperous and democratic world.
Terrance
May 14, 2018
Mnce. Never underestimate the lengths the white man will go to when you threaten his existence. We dropped nuclear bombs on the japanese to prove that point. They day you ‘Rise Up’ is the day you are buried!
Joey Swartbooi
May 14, 2018
Exactly Terry Bell! You hit that nail perfectly and eloquently on the ‘white privilege’ head!!
Terry Bell
May 14, 2018
Thank you Joey. And we can only hope that some of this debate has a positive effect on the bigots out there.
Terrance
May 14, 2018
Tell me Joey. I’m a mix of Irish-Dutch-Koi & Coloured. Does my White half have to pay my coloured half reperations? This whole concept is bloody stupid!
Terry Bell
May 21, 2018
If there is any stupidity involved, Terrance, it relates to you, based on your comments. But I think ignorance and the racism that often goes with it, should suffice.
Nasdaq7
May 14, 2018
Terry Bell the privileged Communist that gets a column in Fin24 every day, the most widely read South African online newspaper, lets see:
“let alone a history over more than 300 years.”
No my dear Terry, the white and black tribes have only had contact since 1770. The fist Xhosa war broke out in 1779.
Wikipedia Xhosa Wars
That means that 1994 – 2017 = it is contact of 224 years. Not 300 years, they had not even known about each other’s existence and had contact for only 224 years!
Lets just follow your logic:
So whites had free school books and paid little for primary school and high school
And what do you think black people had? Didn’t they get free class rooms, free school books,
and free schools built for them or DID they pay for it? How did the black literacy rate increase from 11% in 1955 to 93% in 1990?
You are not only privileged Terry, you are ignorant. You’re a Communist. Someone that has seen the USSR kill 80 million in civil wars, trying to impose one party Marxist states, but you persist to throw around your anti-apartheid Communist personal struggle history. No Terry, people have to work for what they have.
Yes whites are privileged. But guess who was the richest people in 1600, 1700, 1820, long before they came to South Africa?
Wikipedia List of regions by past GDP (PPP) per capita
Wikipedia gives the data from the year 1600:
Netherlands $2,130
Italy $1,100
Belgium $1,144
UK $1,250
Denmark $1,039
Spain $853
France $910
Austria $993
Sweden $977
Germany $910
Switzerland $890
Portugal $819
Norway $723
China $600
If the Dutch are wealthy, it is because they worked for it, they created the largest fleet in the world to trade products across the entire world.
Now people like you want to pull everyone down to the same level of income despite any person’s attempt at becoming wealthy, despite the sacrifices of your father or mother or any family member’s sacrifices, despite their attempts to become wealthy.
Nelson Mandela had 11 brothers and sisters. My extended family line weren’t as privileged.
Google The average White household size is 3.05 members in South Africa
I see no hope for your Terry, steal and nationalize as you like and convert to Communism as much as you like – Venezuela is your heaven. You are very quiet about it aren’t you…?
Terry Bell
May 14, 2018
Unsurprisingly, perhaps. you do not use your name since your inaccuracies begin in your very first line: I have a Fin24 column once a week, not every day. Your grasp and interpretation of history is also stunningly blinkered. Do you seriously think that when Van Riebeeck landed in 1652 there were no people around? But then, again, you display that simplistic racist notion of “black” and “white” and that signature of every bigot with pretensions of intellect: the cherry picking of often unrelated historical facts.
I have approved your comment only to ensure (as I have done with some others in similar vein) that a wider readership may see and understand what still has to be dealt with. This, of course, is also the only reason that I have spent time responding to your inept and racist diatribe.
Nasdaq7
May 14, 2018
Correction:
That means that 1770 to 1994 = contact of 224 years, not 300 years contact.
Terry Bell
May 14, 2018
Read my response.
Andre
May 14, 2018
I am sorry Terry,but you’ve lost the plot somewhere.I am not responsible for history.It happens,and fact of the matter is the honeymoon was over after Madiba.Now 24 years have past since apartheid,get over it and move on.Look how quickly Europe recovered after both world wars,1918 + 24 = 1942,Germany recovered enough to start another world war,then 1945 + 24 = 1969,Germany had the Olympics in 1972 and 1936.People move around and things happen over the years,and I am not responsible for the last 300 years.Things change,the world changes,stop blaming the past and history,people here simply need to get off their butts and work,simple as that.Africa just don’t seem to cut it somehow,and continually just blame the past.When Jan landed here at the Cape in 1652,the black tribes had not crossed the Fish river,the Khoi people were in the Cape.The Europeans had their wars learned from them hopefully ,rebuilt and moved on,simple as that.
Terrance
May 14, 2018
Andre, The problem is that the average black African (or American) is virtually allergic to work. Without a strong male role-model, the childred think that the world will wait on them the same way their poor long-suffering mothers do. Africa’s problems have nothing to do with its melanin, but EVERYTHING to do with it’s familial structures.
Andre
May 14, 2018
I got you..
Terry Bell
May 21, 2018
I was right in the first place: you are both ignorant and racist.
Terry Bell
May 21, 2018
This will be my last comment to you, Andre. We had war-like situations here in SA. But we were also, so far as I am aware, the only country anywhere, where a ruling minority set out deliberately, to cripple, economically, socially and academically, the majority of the population.
That is the legacy we live with. And the arrogance of those people privileged by apartheid who now call for a post 1994 “level playing field” is, to me, sickening. Writing this in no way excuses the fact that the post 1994 government has done so little to remedy the situation. But then, it is people with attitudes such as yours. who usually only add to the problem.
Nasdaq7
May 14, 2018
So you deny colonial history as documented in detail by almost every country in the world that had traded with South Africa since the 1600s? Thousands of ships visited Cape Town. The white population was 1,500+ when the Khoisan was 90% extinct in 1713 – smallpox. The Great Trek took place in 1832 – the population was 20,000 white people. Do you think 20,000 white people oppressed 1 million black people Terry?
Wikipedia Cape Town
Population
1658 360 —
1731 3,157
1836 20,000
The black tribes lived independently under their own tribal kingdoms and kings until the 1870s.
What was the white population in 1870?
Wikipedia Cape Town
1875 45,000 +2.10%
You want facts, there’s facts Terry! Did 45,000 white people oppress 1 million in 1875?
Are you going to post this comment too? No you won’t because you refuse to face reality and you Communist will always love the lie instead of the truth. Once we talk the truth and numbers – you guys disappear. You want equal income for everyone. How ridiculous is that? The man or woman that does no work should earn the same income as the man or woman that works hard.
If there’s one thing you are good at, that’s lying, grabbing, stealing, not mathematics and science and producing new products and ideas. World trade.
You might be surprised to find China’s government spending is 13% in their economy since 1960.
Google China government spending percent GDP.
You’re a Stalinist. If you call me a racist, I call you a Stalinist. Leninist. You don’t even know me. But I am a racist…? you say. One that gives you all the taxes, 42%+ municipal taxes + export duties + stock market trading taxes + I bring in dollars from overseas to South Africa to strengthen the Rand. So what’s my tax burden about 55%+!
I’m sure you would like to see 100%.
Terry Bell
May 21, 2018
You really should get off your very lop-sided statistical bandwagon and look thoroughly at history. You are a racist because you promote the idea of the supremacy of one “race’ (an artificial concept) over others, however you try to dress that up. I suppose your claimed “tax burden” of “55%+” is supposed to impress. However, since there is no such tax level in SA, either corporate or individual, you display instead the ignorance that underlies your bigotry.
Mark Riordan
May 14, 2018
It’s all about cultural differences, things like work ethic, socially acceptable norms etc. are the reasons why most arguments and debates end up as “black vs. white”. We are culturally chasms apart – we have a First World culture vs a Third World culture. Quite a number of the Third World members would, and are, improving their lot in life simply by, if I may say so, adopting a First World culture. Please, if you challenge this, let all know on what basis it is not true. And yes, I guess it is generally seen by most moderately intelligent folk, that a First World culture, far from being the perfect model, is way, way ahead of a Third World culture in terms of living a peaceful, comfortable existence. And not always obtained by “oppression” or “greed” or any other eveil. Just through hard work and a desire to be part of that thriving culture. Is that so wrong ?
Terry Bell
May 21, 2018
First World culture? You mean the culture that, in recent memory, gave us the Nazi death camps, the gulag the arms race and apartheid? Or, to go further back we could talk about the trans Atlantic slave trade the horrors of colonial conquest or even, if you like, the Inquisition?
Here again, we have the better schooled bigot who uses terms like culture, but clearly without any real understanding. It’s the code word and phrase game that avoids expressing openly the racist notion of “white” superiority. And all expressed in a manner that is supposed to sound reasonable, but doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.
Terrance
May 14, 2018
Mnce. Never underestimate the lengths the white man will go to when you threaten his existence. We dropped nuclear bombs on the japanese to prove that point. They day you ‘Rise Up’ is the day you are buried!
Terry Bell
May 21, 2018
Add megalomania to ignorance and racism.
Terrance
May 14, 2018
Dear conquered peoples. You are welcome!
Terrance
May 14, 2018
Andre, The problem is that the average black African (or American) is virtually allergic to work. Without a strong male role-model, the childred think that the world will wait on them the same way their poor long-suffering mothers do. Africa’s problems have nothing to do with its melanin, but EVERYTHING to do with it’s familial structures.
Terrance
May 14, 2018
Terry. So what? What the heng does your sense of smell have to do with the validity of my observation? You’re an intelligent man! Don’t be another one of those soy-boys who thinks that calling everything you don’t like racist will work with me. It’s not 2008.
Des Fernandes
May 14, 2018
Thanks Terry for a brilliant article that I hope will help more and more people to recognise the priviledges they have had and at the same time start to understand what life is without those priviledges. However, our dilemma is what must we do? Restoration of full dignity and courtesy to everyone is paramount. That’s an important way to start. Support people if you can to help them or their children to become better educated. That helps the children but I look forward to guidance on how to make changes in South Africa today or in the near future for the people right here right now.
Terry Bell
May 21, 2018
Thank you Des. Human solidarity is vital, but I think we have to understand that the problem we face is systemic: we do not live in a democracy. The “people” — the majority — have very little say in anything.
This is a result of a system that allows us, every 5 years, to go individually to a polling booth and, in a couple of minutes, put crosses on paper that amounts to the handover of collective power to a political elite. We have the communications technology now to be able to be in almost instant communication with one another. So there is no reason why we should not be consulted on all matters that concern us by those who are supposed to be our representatives. They should be transparent in their dealings and accountable as well as recallable by their constituencies.
To bring about change, such as electoral reform, will require organisation and clarity of vision about the way forward. Here, I think, the Bill of Rights comes into its own as a political programme that should be supported by the overwhelming majority of S Africans. as will any further democratic developments.
I have suggested as a possible goal a coalition of citizens — a Citizens’ Coalition — giving an equal voice in all matters to every citizen of voting age.
Phillip Dumisani Dladla
May 14, 2018
This is an awesome talk but I dont know where would it find a space in this New SA because the Old generation that benefitted the most wont let it go of those privileges wealth and teachings which differintiated one Nation to diffetent races with no future in their hands purposefuly against the will of the Creator and humanly speaking they are not willing to let it go the people who went to school in the old system will never forget what they went through
Terry Bell
May 21, 2018
Thank you Phillip. But I still hold to the idea that, given the right ideas, especially in the right circumstances, people can change. Not the rich and powerful, whether from the old or a newer order, but working people who can realise that they have a common interest and can work together to improve their common lot. But this requires, certainly in a South African context, a clear klnowledge of the past and an awareness of the legacy it has left us with.
Elmarie
May 14, 2018
Apologies MR Bell so is it fair for me to say Asian privilege because they are the world’s most intelligent richest race all because the have past down years of hard work and intellect to their offspring kindly note
Same can be said of Indians I don’t know about you but most Indians I know personally are wealthy and have more than one business running in the family so is that now Indian privilege because they have worked their arses of to obtain these businesses.
Terry Bell
May 21, 2018
You clearly live in — and have never left — an area of the country I have never visited or heard about. And it is certainly not in KZN where you will find the majority of people whose ancestors came from India. Most are poor. Very poor.
As to your comment about race and intelligence, I suggest you look up and discover how poisonous and fundamentally foolish, is social Darwinism.
Bianca
May 15, 2018
Dearest Terry,
That was a beautifully articulated blog entry and it oh so clearly portrays the intellectual and academic “inheritance” your extremely privileged white upbringing afforded you.
The barely contained outrage paired with indignation is a feat few creative writers can master, especially in such a short piece. It really is a fascinating and worthwhile read.
However I do find ( in my humble uneducated opinion ) the tone of your article very misleading. Did you do any actual research or are you merely referring to your own privileged life experiences? The above mentioned fictional tale does have an “aura” of narrow mindedness and ignorance in assuming that all whites enjoyed the same privileged and abundant lifestyle you ,by the sounds of it, took for granted.
Could your own judgement pertaining to this matter perhaps be tainted by your own rose coloured cotton wool and pedestal lifestyle and upbringing?
You are clearly an educated and intelligent individual. Surely you are aware that there will never be a situation of every single white person will be richer than every single black person. No race will be one hundred percent better off than another. Being rich and being poor is not a race issue. Given the level of intellect portrayed in your piece, I feel that you surely should have a clearer and more accurate understanding of the so called “white privilege”, as such I must wonder; Was this piece constructed with such overbearing bigotry simply to kiss arse and brown nose your target audience or merely to offend the “Not at all privileged whites “?
Considering the platform you have access to one would think that you would be smart enough to refrain from such reckless generalization and stereotyping unless your intention is to act as the wind during a forest fire??? Your insinuations that being white automatically means you are rich and privileged, is as ridiculous as thinking every person with a goatee and beretta is liberated in their thinking.
Bianca
Terry Bell
May 21, 2018
Here, dripping with sarcasm, we have a good example of a response by a quite well schooled and therefore literate bigot. Unlike the cruder versions of those exhibiting similar prejudice, Bianca and her ilk use code words and phrases such as “brown nose your target audience” to disguise, unsuccessfully, their racism. but the tactics are the same: distort and deliberately misrepresent what I wrote.
I never said and nowhere implied that “every single white person will be richer than every single black person”. And, unlike Bianca and co, I subscribe to the view, expressed during the struggle against apartheid by Mangaliso Sobukwe: “There is only one race, the human race”.
Above all, I am fully aware that those very rich citizens classified white who benefitted vastly out of apartheid, and who dispensed privilege to other, less rich “whites”, continue to benefit under the democratic dispensation,. Only now, there are a few darker faces in the boardrooms to allow business as usual to continue. Divide and rule is the term for it and Bianca and those like her fail to see this, being apparently blinkered by what often seems a rather pathetic superiority complex based on a wholly unscientific and frankly farcical concept of race.
Sharon Donovan
May 19, 2018
Andre, I think your comments are the best. People must get off their lazy butts and work for the things they want, not expect others to work for it and then have it taken away and given to the blacks in the name of “restitution”. My children, one of whom was 3 in 1994 and two of whom were BORN into an ANC-run government, are being punished now for things that happened before even I was born, by not being able to get jobs. There is no longer such a thing as “white privilege”, it is “white achievement”! We work hard for the things we have and don’t expect handouts. When we can’t get jobs, we create our own (like I have done). My parents were never rich, we always struggled financially (and I still do, working 16 hour days to support my children). My father was in the SA Air Force for most of his life, protecting South African citizens (yes, even the black ones) from threats from our northern neighbours. Things like BEE, AA, EE and all other PATENTLY RACIST legislation will only keep fuelling the fires and stirring the pot. Only once our country treats ALL its citizens as equals, will true reconciliation be possible.
Terry Bell
May 21, 2018
Here is another response that, to my mind, reveals the level of racist thinking, coupled with a distorted view of history. Your father was not protecting citizens from any threat from the north since there was no such threat. He was part — as were most citizens classified “white” — of a powerful military and police force that kept the majority of citizens not classified white in levels of servitude. This was a system that deprived the majority of land, protected (privileged) white citizens through such measures as subsiddised schooling and job reservation. This is not to say that all white citizens were rich and all among the majority poor. The system ensured that massive advantages were given to the white minority while — especially in the case of the “black” majority — even the schooling system was devised academically to cripple (read HF Verwoerd on this topic). This is the legacy we live with. And one we have to come to terms with. Of course the same very rich individuals who prospered under apartheid, continue to do so in the democratic dispensation and they have allowed a few darker faces to join their boardrooms. Thiink along those lines, it may help.
Ella
June 12, 2018
Sharon have a bells
Terry Bell
June 13, 2018
Given what Sharon has written I think she probably had more than a few too many.
stephen hofmann
May 22, 2018
I don’t think I’ve ever read a more bigoted, self-hating blog in all the yrs I’ve had the internet. Your own hatred of your countryman is astounding – ” add megalomania to ignorance and racism”. I wonder how privileged those whites feel as they are being raped and murdered on their farms. Shocking stuff. Absolutely vile.
Terry Bell
May 22, 2018
I leave this up as an example of the very thinking I continue to be critical of. The racist assumption in the penultimate line speaks for itself.
Sharon Donovan
May 26, 2018
Mr Bell, you persist with this biased rhetoric of “white privilege”. I note that you ONLY jumped on the fact that my dad was in the defence force, but very cleverly side-stepped the issue of my children who were BORN into an ANC run country and how they are being punished for the atrocities of the past. Let me perhaps put my views a bit more clearly and try and penetrate your stubborn, one-sided convictions. Yes, in the days when I was in school, there were only white kids in the class. My fault? HOW? I wasn’t anywhere near being a decision-maker, now I get accused of being racist? When my kids went to school, they have never, ever, ever had a class that wasn’t predominantly black children. They had the SAME “privileged” education as the black kids, they studied from the same textbooks, they wrote the same exams. But you persist in saying that my kids “suffer” from “white privilege”? Where do you get this from? Since 1994 a whole generation of people have been receiving the same education, but are they treated as equals? NO! The racist legislation does not allow my children to find work. AND when kids apply for university these days, the white kids (who have been receiving exactly the same education as the black kids) have to achieve higher marks in order to qualify. So, to put it plainly, why are my children being punished for what happened before they were even born?
An excerpt from a website on why white and Indian kids need higher marks in order to study medicine in SA:
“To stand a “realistic chance” of studying medicine, White students needed 90% in five matric subjects, 80% in one matric subject, 80% in a benchmark test.
Indian students needed 90% in four matric subjects, 80% in two matric subjects, 80% in a benchmark test.
Coloured pupils needed 80% in four subjects, 70% in two subjects, and 53% in a benchmark test.
Black students needed between 70-79% in six subjects, and 50% in the benchmark test.”
How is this fair when they received THE SAME education as my kids? And how is it still fair that racist policies like AA, EE and BEE still exist in this country after more than two decades of so-called democracy?
Sharon Donovan
May 26, 2018
Oh, and if you think there was no threat from our northern neighbours, I invite you to go and check out the scar on my dad’s head left by a terrorist bullet as they were trying to cross the border!!!
Terry Bell
May 27, 2018
I shall deal with both of your comments here. Regarding the second: I don’t know where your father was when struck by a bullet. But the chances are the shot was fired by another South African either in, or returning from, exile to assist in the fight to free the majority of the people from a brutally repressive and racist regime.
We all have choices to make. Your father chose to support the apartheid regime; I chose to oppose it. In simple terms: he chose racist autocracy, I chose democracy. I could well have been the one who fired that shot that struck your father, except that my role when in the region, was to provide education to children of exile, many of them horribly traumatised by the actions of the apartheid police and military.
What you seem to fail to understand is that the atrocities — and the privileges — of the past provide a legacy to the present and the future. Of course it wasn’t your fault as a child at school that you and your white compatriots enjoyed huge privileges in terms of educational subsidies etc. That was a reality: you were, merely because a racist state categorised you as “white” were given huge advantages over those categorised as “non-white”.
And, of course, there was a slight hierarchy of privilege among the “non-white” categories, based both on history (especially in the Cape) and the perceived need to divide and rule. But the over-riding reality was that “white” were privileged across the board. You really should look at the social devastation caused by the Group Areas Act with its forced removals. Job reservation is also a classic.
Given the historic disadvantages suffered by the majority of the population, a policy of affirmative action was introduced. This states that, for example, if three equally qualified and apparently suitable candidates applied for the same job, it should go to the candidates from the most historically disadvantaged group. A good policy, I think, but that does not mean that it has been properly applied.
Political and family patronage has often distorted this policy. Just as it did in the former regime where, when it came to promotion, certainly in state enterprises such as the railways, Afrikaans speakers and National Party members received preference. It is the sort of practice that should be opposed by everyone.
Your whole argument is based on the assumption that a “level playing field” existed after 1994. This ignores history and the legacies of the past, And part of that recent past is the reality of the “lost generation”. These would be the students who shook the foundations of the apartheid state with their 1976 uprising. They forewent schooling and the fight for a democratic state. Many of these people would be the parents of the children w who went to school with your children.
From your correspondence it seems obvious that you have no idea of the home environments of those “other” children at school at the same time as your own. Most of them will find — as graduates from schools, colleges and universities around the world are discovering — that there are fewer and fewer jobs to be had. However, courtesy largely of previous white privilege and the ongoing “old boy” network, the “white” group in SA has the lowest unemployment rate.
At the same time, the very wealthy who prospered grandly under apartheid, continue to prosper today. The only difference being that there are now a few darker faces in the boardrooms. Here too, is surely a common problem to be confronted by all young people seeking jobs and wanting to make their ways in the world?
Sharon Donovan
June 9, 2018
Methinks the only REAL racist on this blog is Terry Bell himself, who is so prejudiced against white people it’s amazing he hasn’t gone and gotten a skin graft. No matter what any white person says to you, you will turn it into something racist. I have much more interesting things to do that continue to pander to your delusions. Signing off now …
Terry Bell
June 13, 2018
Hopefull, perhaps, to think more deeply about the arguments made.
Terry Bell
June 13, 2018
That is Hopefully
patrick lee-thorp
July 12, 2018
Debate for the sake of it.
I did not see your answer to my question though.
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Terry Bell Writes wrote:
> Terry Bell commented: “That is Hopefully” >
Terry Bell
July 12, 2018
I am at a loss. You first emerged simply as Patrick and now add Lee-thorp. I replied to your queries as Patrick and don’t know what you are referring to.